It has been 6 weeks since Allure Studio was banned from MyFreeCams, and the truth is the site has never responded to the studio administrators. MFC will not allow new models from the studio to create accounts. This was not a simple mistake or errors with documents. For all intents and purposes, Allure seems to be pretty much done on the site.
It really sucks for the girls. MFC was their best performing site. It's now hard to keep up with the models since so many of them are trying out different sites, hoping to find some way to replace the income lost from MFC.
I have heard from enough models and members to feel comfortable saying that the guy who got busted in AprilWong's room and the other top guy at the studio are pretty big shitheads. I heard that April is not the first girl from the studio he has tried this with, she is just the first to have been caught on camera. Apparently this is the M.O. of him and his buddy at the studio. They are both very "hands-on" both at the studio and at their company events.
That's just another reason that I feel sorry for the girls, and I do feel bad for AprilWong if she was the latest conquest of this guy who has allegedly tried to have sex with nearly every girl at the studio for years. He might be her boyfriend, or he might be her "boyfriend," just to make life and the job a little easier for herself. The girls already get taken advantage of by having to give up such a percentage of tokens they earn, now this.
Maybe the studio won't survive with the lack of MFC income. Maybe it'll have to cut down on the number of models. Or maybe they'll find another site to strike it rich on and it'll be like before. Only time will tell.
Hopefully the girls, the real victims here, will find some way to be ok. If they want to stay doing webcam, maybe they'll get lucky and the owner/owners will wake up and see something is very wrong that a studio that has been around for 10 years got banned by it's most lucrative site. Or maybe there's another studio in Odessa, Ukraine where they won't be subjected what they were subjected to at Allure.
It has been 6 weeks since Allure Studio was banned from MyFreeCams, and the truth is the site has never responded to the studio administrators. MFC will not allow new models from the studio to create accounts. This was not a simple mistake or errors with documents. For all intents and purposes, Allure seems to be pretty much done on the site.
I have heard from enough models and members to feel comfortable saying that the guy who got busted in AprilWong's room and the other top guy at the studio are pretty big shitheads. I heard that April is not the first girl from the studio he has tried this with, she is just the first to have been caught on camera. Apparently this is the M.O. of him and his buddy at the studio. They are both very "hands-on" both at the studio and at their company events.
I have also talked with many of the girls that work cam at Allure, and I have talked with the girls that are administrators. Truth be told, no one but MFC knows the reason for this ban of Allure Studios. It would be nice and simple if it was all April's and this dudes fault. Speculation is all we can really have. The girls I have talked with that have been with the studio for years, and a couple that have already left do not think it was April's fault. The Studio also knows about this discussion and other post about this subject. The owners have also been made aware of this situation, but as of yet nothing has been done about it. I am sure if they thought April was the cause, she would no longer be working at Allure. If this guy really was the cause and has cut so deep into the studios bottom line, I am sure he would no longer be allowed there. Again, all speculation. We do not really know the cause and April's incident might all be coincidence.
I much prefer MFC to the other sites, even with all its problems, it was still a much better site to deal with and track the girls. I still get to see and spend time with my favorite girls from that studio, so for me all this is just a minor inconvenience. These post have been nice to see that there is a following of Allure and hopefully we can see them return to MFC.
the site has never responded to the studio administrators
I said this before. MFC won't reply. They rarely reply. They made the decision to ban all the girls and won't explain why. They shouldn't explain, by the way. This would allow the studio to learn from it and adapt so as not to be caught again. The ban is not a lesson, it is a punishment.
It has been 6 weeks since Allure Studio was banned from MyFreeCams, and the truth is the site has never responded to the studio administrators. MFC will not allow new models from the studio to create accounts. This was not a simple mistake or errors with documents. For all intents and purposes, Allure seems to be pretty much done on the site.
I have heard from enough models and members to feel comfortable saying that the guy who got busted in AprilWong's room and the other top guy at the studio are pretty big shitheads. I heard that April is not the first girl from the studio he has tried this with, she is just the first to have been caught on camera. Apparently this is the M.O. of him and his buddy at the studio. They are both very "hands-on" both at the studio and at their company events.
I have also talked with many of the girls that work cam at Allure, and I have talked with the girls that are administrators. Truth be told, no one but MFC knows the reason for this ban of Allure Studios. It would be nice and simple if it was all April's and this dudes fault. Speculation is all we can really have. The girls I have talked with that have been with the studio for years, and a couple that have already left do not think it was April's fault. The Studio also knows about this discussion and other post about this subject. The owners have also been made aware of this situation, but as of yet nothing has been done about it. I am sure if they thought April was the cause, she would no longer be working at Allure. If this guy really was the cause and has cut so deep into the studios bottom line, I am sure he would no longer be allowed there. Again, all speculation. We do not really know the cause and April's incident might all be coincidence.
I much prefer MFC to the other sites, even with all its problems, it was still a much better site to deal with and track the girls. I still get to see and spend time with my favorite girls from that studio, so for me all this is just a minor inconvenience. These post have been nice to see that there is a following of Allure and hopefully we can see them return to MFC.
We might disagree about some things in this thread and that have happened with Allure Studio, but you always provide good insight and I appreciate your posts and perspective.
I also would like to see the girls return to MFC, they are the real victims here. But if the site never gets back to the studio, I just don't see it happening.
And while I still believe being caught with a man on camera the day before the ban is the reason, you are correct that it is speculation without MFC responding.
But, if it was coincidence, if nothing else there is enough visual evidence posted here to show that MFC rules were broken multiple times. I might have been too harsh on AprilWong in my previous posts, especially after hearing what I have heard about the guy. But the fact remains that if the rules were followed to begin with, there wouldn't even be the possibility that allowing a man on camera was the reason for the ban.
At the end of the day, this studio which stood out from most of the others and probably made good money for MFC, screwed up so badly somewhere along the line that they got banned. And it isn't like it is a new studio either, this was a well-known studio and for good reason.
I hope you are correct and the owners have been made aware. They need to take a serious look at what could have happened and evaluate what needs to be changed.
We might disagree about some things in this thread and that have happened with Allure Studio, but you always provide good insight and I appreciate your posts and perspective.
I also would like to see the girls return to MFC, they are the real victims here. But if the site never gets back to the studio, I just don't see it happening.
And while I still believe being caught with a man on camera the day before the ban is the reason, you are correct that it is speculation without MFC responding.
But, if it was coincidence, if nothing else there is enough visual evidence posted here to show that MFC rules were broken multiple times. I might have been too harsh on AprilWong in my previous posts, especially after hearing what I have heard about the guy. But the fact remains that if the rules were followed to begin with, there wouldn't even be the possibility that allowing a man on camera was the reason for the ban.
At the end of the day, this studio which stood out from most of the others and probably made good money for MFC, screwed up so badly somewhere along the line that they got banned. And it isn't like it is a new studio either, this was a well-known studio and for good reason.
I hope you are correct and the owners have been made aware. They need to take a serious look at what could have happened and evaluate what needs to be changed.
The one question I have, if MFC no longer allows studio accounts, how was Allure still on a studio account? Is it possible to just start individual model accounts on MFC, but I can see this being a headache if they cannot connect all those accounts to the same banking account. Just a thought I have been thinking on for a while now. I know a lot of if not most of these girls do not have their own bank accounts and rely on cash system to live. I am surprised more of these studio girls do not go out on their own and earn a lot more. These studio I know have the intention to help these girls but they take to big an advantage of them also.
Thank you Jimmyj_Two_Times for the compliment. You also give great insight.
ClarkWGriswold said: A little unbelievable that the studio is still trying to sneak girls on after being banned.
Really? I have seen many studios being banned, and almost every studio tried to create new accounts.
Some studios don't even try to figure out what happened. They create new
accounts and think it is all fine. Some studios even hold backup accounts
(CB is full of backup accounts) in case their main accounts are banned.
These
studios come from countries where finding tricks to avoid the rules/fines is
considered a good hack life. So yes, they will try a bunch of different ways to
get back to MFC instead of accepting the fact that they fucked up and got
banned. They already tried creating new accounts. And they got the girls to tweet @
MFC to put some pressure, plant doubts in MFC decision and pretend to be
innocent.
By
the way, trying to go back to MFC is stupid. Look this girl sofiblooom. She got
back, had some privates, and then got banned again. She will never be paid for
some of those privates. I don't know about the privates she had in the
beginning of March, but the privates she had in the end of the month, she
won't see a dime for those since MFC banned the account before paying out the
period.
My 2 cents on why they banned all models. I don't think it is related to that guy
showing up in one girl's stream. I think the reason is more serious. Something
that made MFC cut ties to avoid legal trouble. Either that or the studio tried
to squeeze MFC into a position, and MFC shot back by banning the whole studio.
If
I am right, then MFC has nothing against the girls. They may be allowed to
return if they are not working for that studio. This may create an
exodus, leaving the studio with almost no models and forcing it to shut down.
Maybe that was the plan?
We
are all creating theories here, but we wouldn't need to. If the studio were
professional, they would talk to the girls and explain why they can't
work on MFC anymore. It doesn't matter if MFC isn't replying. The studio knows
or has an idea of why they got banned. MFC wouldn't ban a studio for no
reason. They did something wrong, they know it. They got banned for it and
give zero explanation.
I was wondering the same. MFC as a software is known for being a mess. It is an old system running on top of a bunch of poor code glued together to work as a band-aid on deep cuts. Maybe they just stopped accepting studio accounts, but studio accounts were never really removed from the system. I can imagine it being a nightmare to convert every studio model into individual account. Maybe it can be automate. But because of the documents and payment details, it isn't that straightforward.
ClarkWGriswold said: A little unbelievable that the studio is still trying to sneak girls on after being banned.
Really? I have seen many studios being banned, and almost every studio tried to create new accounts.
Some studios don't even try to figure out what happened. They create new
accounts and think it is all fine. Some studios even hold backup accounts
(CB is full of backup accounts) in case their main accounts are banned.
These
studios come from countries where finding tricks to avoid the rules/fines is
considered a good hack life. So yes, they will try a bunch of different ways to
get back to MFC instead of accepting the fact that they fucked up and got
banned. They already tried creating new accounts. And they got the girls to tweet @
MFC to put some pressure, plant doubts in MFC decision and pretend to be
innocent.
Actually you are right. This is totally believable that they would try this.
At some point the studio will have to come to the realization that they messed up and there's no coming back.
I can't imagine we won't be seeing changes at some point in the next couple of months. Right now they have girls scattered across every webcam site known to man. There will not be a quick fix from losing all of that MFC income, so some sort of adjustment has to be made.
We
are all creating theories here, but we wouldn't need to. If the studio were
professional, they would talk to the girls and explain why they can't
work on MFC anymore. It doesn't matter if MFC isn't replying. The studio knows
or has an idea of why they got banned. MFC wouldn't ban a studio for no
reason. They did something wrong, they know it. They got banned for it and
give zero explanation.
I agree 100%.
I said earlier that I believe that AprilWong getting caught is the reason. But I do admit that it could be a coincidence.
However, I still assert that if the people in charge there were professional that the AprilWong incident wouldn't even be a possibility. They broke three of the first four rules MyFreeCams has posted in rules for models multiple times. Somehow they had the good sense not to have anybody underage on camera or they would have been 4-for-4.
Unauthorized persons
Unregistered persons (people who have not submitted their ID to us) on camera.
Men on camera for any reason. Men should not be in the same room.
Sexual interaction with men, on or out of view of the camera.
Minors, children, babies on camera or in the same room.
And MyFreeCams does state that you can be banned without warning. There's been hundreds if not thousands of models banned without warning in the past. They have never heard why and will never hear why.
Advice to any model or studio in the future. MFC has a lot of flaws, but when it comes to breaking rules, this is a "fuck around and find out" company.
The one question I have, if MFC no longer allows studio accounts, how was Allure still on a studio account? Is it possible to just start individual model accounts on MFC, but I can see this being a headache if they cannot connect all those accounts to the same banking account. Just a thought I have been thinking on for a while now. I know a lot of if not most of these girls do not have their own bank accounts and rely on cash system to live. I am surprised more of these studio girls do not go out on their own and earn a lot more. These studio I know have the intention to help these girls but they take to big an advantage of them also.
Thank you Jimmyj_Two_Times for the compliment. You also give great insight.
As far as why the girls don't go out on their own, you have to remember that porn is illegal in Ukraine.
The studios can advertise that they provide rooms, high speed internet, training, etc. but the biggest service they provide is knowing the right people to pay off to keep the girls from getting arrested.
There are videos out there of studios being raided by police as they were broadcasting, because the right people weren't paid off.
So once again, these girls get taken advantage of, both physically and mentally, as well as getting pennies on the dollars of their earnings just so they will be protected.
An independent girl just wouldn't have the resources to pay the right people off.
In a move to stop police spending too much time chasing webcam girls (and sometimes allegedly extorting them) rather than finding more serious criminals, Ukrainian lawmakers are looking to decriminalize pornography.
In a move to stop police spending too much time chasing webcam girls (and sometimes allegedly extorting them) rather than finding more serious criminals, Ukrainian lawmakers are looking to decriminalize pornography.
I knew it was illegal in Ukraine, but after reading these articles, I had no clue that so many were in the industry. 10's of thousands if not 100's of thousands may be working in the industry. I can see why law makers would want to legalize pornography. Potentially, billions in revenue. Thanks for these articles you posted, really informative.
In a move to stop police spending too much time chasing webcam girls (and sometimes allegedly extorting them) rather than finding more serious criminals, Ukrainian lawmakers are looking to decriminalize pornography.
I knew it was illegal in Ukraine, but after reading these articles, I had no clue that so many were in the industry. 10's of thousands if not 100's of thousands may be working in the industry. I can see why law makers would want to legalize pornography. Potentially, billions in revenue. Thanks for these articles you posted, really informative.
I bet outside of the religious crowd, the people most against pornography being legalized in Ukraine are the studios.
I know plenty of successful independent models from Romania. There are still studios there, obviously, but look at the amount of independent Romanian girls on the Top 100 on MFC.
If you cut out the middle man (the studios) the girls get to keep more money and wouldn't have to deal with any unprincipled and/or lecherous studio employees.
Those articles point out lots of other advantages, too. It would be nice to see it happen.
I wonder why they are streaming to one of Mia's accounts, but none of April's and Alisha's? Mia said on Instagram that the trio would be doing shows together for this month.
It seems they're getting the traffic/tips that most of the Allure models get on Chaturbate - not much. But you would think all of them would be streaming to their individual accounts, not just Mia on CB, right?
I have also been curious what Allure Studio's deal is with AdultWork. I have talked to other people who didn't know what AdultWork was before MFC banned the studio, and none of us have been impressed with it as a website. But somehow it's the one site where all Allure models work.
I wonder why they are streaming to one of Mia's accounts, but none of April's and Alisha's? Mia said on Instagram that the trio would be doing shows together for this month.
April was online on Flirt 4 Free a week ago. Four days later she started streaming with two other girls on Flirt 4 Free. I don't know them, but I assume those are the girls you mentioned. They are online right now on Tri Amour account.
I have also been curious what Allure Studio's deal is with AdultWork. I
have talked to other people who didn't know what AdultWork was before
MFC banned the studio, and none of us have been impressed with it as a
website. But somehow it's the one site where all Allure models work.
AdultWork is horrible. Its interface is confusing, there is no public chat and traffic is dead. The only good thing they have is the 65%-70% payout. But if you have no member booking a show, the high payout is pointless. It only works for models with sugar daddies that follow them to whatever shitty site the girls direct them.
Maybe someone can enlighten me. If they were making good money on MFC and had a good fanbase, why can't they do the same on other sites? Why do their fans not go to whatever site they are now and spend money there? I can't understand why being banned from MFC can be the studio's death if there are so many options out there. Chaturbate and Stripchat have way more traffic than MFC and people tip a lot for the type of show they are doing.
Maybe someone can enlighten me. If they were making good money on MFC and had a good fanbase, why can't they do the same on other sites? Why do their fans not go to whatever site they are now and spend money there? I can't understand why being banned from MFC can be the studio's death if there are so many options out there. Chaturbate and Stripchat have way more traffic than MFC and people tip a lot for the type of show they are doing.
Thank you for the info on AdultWork. I still hate that website and agree with you about the interface.
I just saw Tri Amour began streaming today. AprilWong seemed to be doing ok on her solo account on Flirt4Free, especially compared to how most of the other Allure Studio girls I have watched have been doing. But now the earnings will be split three ways?
And your question about why members haven't followed them to other sites is one of the many mysteries that have arisen since they were banned.
Now, I don't claim to know every model from the studio, but I checked the stats on this site from 20 or so. 15 of the models ranked in the Top 1000 of MFC in January. Also 10 models ranked in the Top 1000 for February, despite being banned on February 23. That February number includes LiaDazy, who didn't start until late January so she wasn't ranked then. KelSi was in the Top 100 when the ban happened, and still finished #167.
Just using those 2 as an example, it is a bit crazy to see what has happened. LiaDazy quit in March. KelSi is generating far from those number of tokens on Chaturbate.
I guess unless some of their bigger tippers explain what happened this will be another unsolved mystery.
Maybe someone can enlighten me. If they were making good money on MFC and had a good fanbase, why can't they do the same on other sites? Why do their fans not go to whatever site they are now and spend money there? I can't understand why being banned from MFC can be the studio's death if there are so many options out there. Chaturbate and Stripchat have way more traffic than MFC and people tip a lot for the type of show they are doing.
Many reason contribute to the fans not all following their models to other sites. Not all fans are linked to their social media accounts, so they have no clue what happened to them. Some fans are loyal to MFC and have no desire to use other sites, even if they knew where to find the models. Myself, I did follow the ones I like to Chaturbate. I am not a fan of Chaturbate myself and much preferred MFC even with all it's flaws. KelsiDi already had an account on Chaturbate and streamed there often enough. A lot of the other girls also had second accounts on other sites, but MFC was still a better money maker for them. I have also noticed that a lot of these models had the same fans that spent money on them, most being supporters of the Allure girls.
I have also been curious what Allure Studio's deal is with AdultWork. I
have talked to other people who didn't know what AdultWork was before
MFC banned the studio, and none of us have been impressed with it as a
website. But somehow it's the one site where all Allure models work.
AdultWork is horrible. Its interface is confusing, there is no public chat and traffic is dead. The only good thing they have is the 65%-70% payout. But if you have no member booking a show, the high payout is pointless. It only works for models with sugar daddies that follow them to whatever shitty site the girls direct them.
Allure Studio started using AdultWork a few months after the war started in Ukraine. The reason, I am not sure, but I do know that the studio tries all the different cam sites. AdultWork has improved a little since they started using it, and it continues to be improved, but still a shit site. AdultWork is the only site that I have seen with a full list of all the girls registered. I find this is a nice feature.
I wonder why they are streaming to one of Mia's accounts, but none of April's and Alisha's? Mia said on Instagram that the trio would be doing shows together for this month.
It seems they're getting the traffic/tips that most of the Allure models get on Chaturbate - not much. But you would think all of them would be streaming to their individual accounts, not just Mia on CB, right?
I have also been curious what Allure Studio's deal is with AdultWork. I have talked to other people who didn't know what AdultWork was before MFC banned the studio, and none of us have been impressed with it as a website. But somehow it's the one site where all Allure models work.
What is interesting to me is why AprilWong is streaming with these two girls and not MilaVox.
I would guess over the past couple years no two girls from the studio have cammed more together than those two, and they always had good traffic on MyFreeCams. As a matter of fact, they were streaming together during the last day on MFC when all the bans happened.
It sure seems like that duo's success could transfer over to a new site/sites.
Now it seems as though they don't even use the same cam sites (besides AdultWork). April is on LiveJasmin and Flirt4Free, including her accounts with the girls. Mila is on Chaturbate and StripChat (occasionally Jasmin), and has begun pushing Skype on her OnlyFans.
I'm beginning to think this studio is abusing it's models. Something just doesn't seem right and the way things are unfolding, just screams to me like, sex trafficking.
I'm beginning to think this studio is abusing it's models. Something just doesn't seem right and the way things are unfolding, just screams to me like, sex trafficking.
Why do you mention sex trafficking? I have never gotten this impression and I have known a few of the girls through personal chat (old and new). The only men that work in the studio are the programmers. There is also the occasional maintenance worker that comes to repair or remodel work. No guy works cam in that studio. The girls are usually alone majority of the time. I do agree, it is not the same as before. Not even the same as a year ago. But I have yet to think there is sex trafficking going on. I would assume prostitution before I ever think sex trafficking and even this I have never gotten the impression of.
Do you know why cam business is so popular in Ukraine and other Eastern European countries? Yes, there is a lot of money to be made, but the main reason majority of the girls go into this profession is that the average monthly salary is quite low. And women's average salary is lower then men's. This is why a lot of girls get talked into going into the cam industry. A lot never make it very long and end up working in a factory making low wages and working very hard for this wage. Factory work pays more than a lot of other jobs, but it is very demanding. These girls, use cam not only to make a decent wage, though far less then they could make if camming for themselves, they also hope to find that guy that can take them away from that life and give them something better. There are many reasons why these girls find themselves on cam. They are gullible and see an easy way to make a decent living, though it can be quite hard on them with pressure from the studio to succeed.
While I don't know if I would go far to say trafficking, as I also have no idea what the exact definition by law of what sex trafficking is, I would say there are definitely changes in personnel that should be made.
What's done is done, and the studio will never be back on MFC. I would guess the only chance most of the girls would have to get back on MFC would be to leave the studio. The real question with that is if they would be allowed to, depending on the contract they signed with Allure Studio.
If the owners wanted to salvage any shot of treating their models with decency, they would take a look at a couple of their male employees. No current model could or would complain, but I have heard from former models, and I have heard from other members who have former model friends. Would they tell the truth if the owners asked them? Maybe, but who knows.
Any of them could explain to anybody how these employees act when they are alone with the girls at parties/functions where the girls just want to have a good time and relax. There's a reason husbands/boyfriends cannot attend these, and those 2 employees are the only men there.
As the owner said in one of her interviews: "Friendly and cozy atmosphere in the company makes our models feel happy, wanted and confident in the future. We sincerely believe that every woman deserves a luxurious life!"
The more I learn, the more this sounds just like a corporate motto without any basis in reality. It seems the image Allure present of itself on social media is a sham, and it isn't different than most other studios.
I hate to be the one to say this, but blaming the minimum salary is not an excuse.
In a normal situation, minimum salaries are in tandem with the local economy. To someone in Germany, the Ukrainian minimum salary is awfully low. But guess what? Ukrainian people working in Ukraine are not living in Germany and won't need to pay 2,000 EUR for a one-bedroom flat in Munich. They have low salaries, but the costs are low, too. But I agree that earning the minimum salary doesn't exactly pay for an okay life.
There are a lot of Ukrainian and Russian people living now in my country because of the war. I see the ones that struggle and work any job and those that moved with the whole family with a big SUV and rented a newly built nice flat. Let's call the second group "rich". They were working and living in Ukraine a couple of years ago. They are not related to camming at all. And for the record, they don't look like mafia. Yet, they made enough money to buy a new Toyota and provide for a family of four. Again, they made and are still making good money while not being camgirls. And I am not talking about a couple of people who came from rich families. I am talking about many families that started from nothing. Again, NOT related to camming.
I know a handful of Ukrainian people who have already started businesses in my country after moving, and they are doing quite well.
Another example? Go to Etsy. Many top sellers are from Ukraine. The most common is furniture. They sell well-crafted furniture for decent money, and they are very successful.
My point is that if you work a regular job, you get a minimum salary, but a bag of potatoes isn't that expensive. But it is possible to make more money without being involved in camming.
I am not against them being camgirls. Of course not. But I hate when they blame the economy, minimum salary, and everything else to justify being a camgirl when, in reality, they all want to make 10x more than the average person and still live in a cheap country.
Romanian camgirls blame the same low minimum salary. But Romania's minimum salary is four times Ukraine's minimum salary. What about Poland? The minimum salary there is almost 6x higher than in Ukraine. Yet, you can find thousands of nonnude camgirls from Poland. They all blame their local economy and how shitty the salary is.
I'm beginning to think this studio is abusing it's models. Something just doesn't seem right and the way things are unfolding, just screams to me like, sex trafficking.
Why do you mention sex trafficking?
I suppose he used the term sex trafficking because that is the term. But he may be referring to slavery, exploitative behavior, and abusive situations.
@Rent85 You make some very good points. Though the minimum salary in Ukraine barely pays rent for an apartment and very little left to survive on. Yes I do agree, prices in Ukraine are much lower than other parts of the world. Yes, the girls could find different work or even be self employed. I can only repeat what I am told about this subject, I am not a expert on this and have done little research.
exploitation is a good word I think. Allure may be a safer environment for the girls to work compared to other studios and the owners of these studios may say that they are only helping the girls, but these owners are making a killing off them and pay the girls little. I just wish more had the since to save enough and cam for themselves in the safety of their own home if possible. VPN for the win.
I was talking to a camgirl (not from Allure Studio, by the way) the other day, and she brought up the time she got a warning from MFC for talking to a male friend via speaker phone on camera.
She sent me the wording of the warning (it was cut off at the end), but it read: "You're receiving a warning for the following reason: Men are not allowed on cam for any reason and should not be heard or seen on your broadcast. Please respect..." (That is where it got cut off.)
But she said the gist of what they said was this is her one and only warning. If she got caught again she'd be banned for good.
Got me thinking about this incident. If this happened twice in January, as the screenshots here show, AprilWong/the studio could have gotten a warning. Now since it was part of a studio account, who would have known about the warning? Who knows, but that would just be more speculation on my end.
But if they were indeed warned in January, and then got caught again in February, that would be a good reason to be banned. Especially since they were supposedly one of the last studio accounts, MFC could have just said screw it, we can't trust anyone there.
Again, this is all speculation. And having a man on speaker phone is different than blowing/having sex with a guy while off camera while broadcasting. But it's possible they had complaints and/or gave out a warning before.
And who knows if AprilWong even knew about the warning due to the nature of her account. Being an employee, the guy could have known and not given a fuck. He definitely has questionable morals from things I have heard. Also, the studio in general trying to sneak new models on or old models with new names, seems like it doesn't really care much for following MFC's rules anyway.
Also, don't try to wrap your head around the hypocrisy of MyFreeCams allowing Olivia to do her live call-in shows, while they warned another model about speaking to a friend on speaker phone. As the model told me when I asked her about it: "Check our camscores."
But she said the gist of what they said was this is her one and only warning. If she got caught again she'd be banned for good.
Got me thinking about this incident. If this happened twice in January, as the screenshots here show, AprilWong/the studio could have gotten a warning. Now since it was part of a studio account, who would have known about the warning? Who knows, but that would just be more speculation on my end.
But if they were indeed warned in January, and then got caught again in February, that would be a good reason to be banned. Especially since they were supposedly one of the last studio accounts, MFC could have just said screw it, we can't trust anyone there.
Again, this is all speculation. And having a man on speaker phone is different than blowing/having sex with a guy while off camera while broadcasting. But it's possible they had complaints and/or gave out a warning before.
I think this is a good possibility.
I am sure MFC didn't want to lose the income, but if rules are consistently being broken out in the open...what other choice do they have?
Then again, I know models who have gotten warnings, as well as models that have been banned with no warning. I guess it depends on how badly the rules are being broken and who is breaking them.
Also, don't try to wrap your head around the hypocrisy of MyFreeCams allowing Olivia to do her live call-in shows, while they warned another model about speaking to a friend on speaker phone. As the model told me when I asked her about it: "Check our camscores."
Also, looks like we are coming up on 2 months since the banning happened on February 23.
There are some pretty big name girls who never came back after the banning. There are plenty more, both successful and lesser known girls, that haven't been online for a month or so.
Sad what has happened to the vast majority of girls/employees who did nothing wrong and just want to make a living.
MyFreeCams allowing Olivia to do her live call-in shows, while they warned another model about speaking to a friend on speaker phone.
MFC suspended Olivia once, but the reason had nothing to do with any rules. What she did wasn't even mentioned in the rules, and it's still not there.
I didn't know Olivia was doing live call-in shows. I don't follow her shows. Gosh, they are boring. But from what I know, her shows are heavily staged. I wouldn't be surprised if the calls were recorded and that she checked with MFC first. Is this recent? Maybe she is using AI for the voice, and then technically it is not a man. Not even a human. Also, Olivia is doing this as part of her act. I assume the other girl was having a personal phone call when she should be giving attention to members. It is the same idea behind the rule that says models must stay in camera sight.
I remember when MFC banned streams from public places (restaurants, libraries, etc.). A bunch of girls were still streaming in public places, and people said MFC was protecting them. It turned out they were broadcasting from their private backyards or fake offices. They had checked with MFC if that was okay. I just hate that MFC never clarifies the rules, and everyone is clueless about what is okay and what is not.
I am sure MFC didn't want to lose the income, but if rules are consistently being broken out in the open...what other choice do they have?
Have you heard about Kickaz? She was 55 times in the top 10. Not top 100, but top 10. Yes, she was tipping herself a lot as part of her "business strategy". But still, MFC banned her without a warning and never let her return.
Self-tipping or not, kickaz made more money for MFC than the whole Allure studio together. She was still banned.
I honestly don't think Allure was bringing that much money. Of course, it is a lot of money for a Ukrainian studio. But for MFC, Allure girls are average/below average earners that MFC probably never noticed before this incident. Even if they were important, if MFC decides to ban them, money won't be a reason to change their minds.
I didn't know Olivia was doing live call-in shows. I don't follow her shows. Gosh, they are boring. But from what I know, her shows are heavily staged. I wouldn't be surprised if the calls were recorded and that she checked with MFC first. Is this recent? Maybe she is using AI for the voice, and then technically it is not a man. Not even a human. Also, Olivia is doing this as part of her act. I assume the other girl was having a personal phone call when she should be giving attention to members. It is the same idea behind the rule that says models must stay in camera sight.
Under her stats tab on this site, under "Recent Snapshots" it has pictures of Olivia's call-in shows from March 19 and 26. She puts a topic up for discussion and has a number for users to call in. It's about as exciting as it sounds, and you can get enough of it from the pictures without having to actually watch anything.
I am sure MFC didn't want to lose the income, but if rules are consistently being broken out in the open...what other choice do they have?
Have you heard about Kickaz? She was 55 times in the top 10. Not top 100, but top 10. Yes, she was tipping herself a lot as part of her "business strategy". But still, MFC banned her without a warning and never let her return.
Self-tipping or not, kickaz made more money for MFC than the whole Allure studio together. She was still banned.
I honestly don't think Allure was bringing that much money. Of course, it is a lot of money for a Ukrainian studio. But for MFC, Allure girls are average/below average earners that MFC probably never noticed before this incident. Even if they were important, if MFC decides to ban them, money won't be a reason to change their minds.
And Allure did have a dozen or more girls every month in the Top 1000. But you make a good point about banning Kickaz.
I am still amazed that Allure has kept the guy, and to some extent AprilWong, employed. He certainly should have known better. Any moron knows MFC's rules about no men, and even if this had no reason to do with the ban, they were caught breaking the rules for sure and put everyone in that studio at risk.
Also, looks like we are coming up on 2 months since the banning happened on February 23.
There are some pretty big name girls who never came back after the banning. There are plenty more, both successful and lesser known girls, that haven't been online for a month or so.
Sad what has happened to the vast majority of girls/employees who did nothing wrong and just want to make a living.
I think it will be an interesting next few months for the girls from the studio.
Seems as though they are trying many different sites, and there are varying levels of success. I think it's safe to say none of the girls are doing as well as they did on MFC, though.
But anyone who has been around cam sites for long enough knows all it takes is one tipper to turn things around for a girl. I guess they will have to hold out as long as possible and hope for that one guy to show up.
With over 40 models working, I don't think they all can wait forever.
I messaged April on LiveJasmin and told her she should ditch studios and work on her own. She said, not possible. The only reason for her saying this is if she's in financial turmoil or as I said, she can't escape whatever situation she's in. Either way, it's pretty sad that a beautiful woman can be so easily taken advantage of by her colleagues. They all look like a bunch of village idiots to be honest.
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I much prefer MFC to the other sites, even with all its problems, it was still a much better site to deal with and track the girls. I still get to see and spend time with my favorite girls from that studio, so for me all this is just a minor inconvenience. These post have been nice to see that there is a following of Allure and hopefully we can see them return to MFC.
I also would like to see the girls return to MFC, they are the real victims here. But if the site never gets back to the studio, I just don't see it happening.
And while I still believe being caught with a man on camera the day before the ban is the reason, you are correct that it is speculation without MFC responding.
But, if it was coincidence, if nothing else there is enough visual evidence posted here to show that MFC rules were broken multiple times. I might have been too harsh on AprilWong in my previous posts, especially after hearing what I have heard about the guy. But the fact remains that if the rules were followed to begin with, there wouldn't even be the possibility that allowing a man on camera was the reason for the ban.
At the end of the day, this studio which stood out from most of the others and probably made good money for MFC, screwed up so badly somewhere along the line that they got banned. And it isn't like it is a new studio either, this was a well-known studio and for good reason.
I hope you are correct and the owners have been made aware. They need to take a serious look at what could have happened and evaluate what needs to be changed.
Thank you Jimmyj_Two_Times for the compliment. You also give great insight.
Really? I have seen many studios being banned, and almost every studio tried to create new accounts. Some studios don't even try to figure out what happened. They create new accounts and think it is all fine. Some studios even hold backup accounts (CB is full of backup accounts) in case their main accounts are banned.
These studios come from countries where finding tricks to avoid the rules/fines is considered a good hack life. So yes, they will try a bunch of different ways to get back to MFC instead of accepting the fact that they fucked up and got banned. They already tried creating new accounts. And they got the girls to tweet @ MFC to put some pressure, plant doubts in MFC decision and pretend to be innocent.
By the way, trying to go back to MFC is stupid. Look this girl sofiblooom. She got back, had some privates, and then got banned again. She will never be paid for some of those privates. I don't know about the privates she had in the beginning of March, but the privates she had in the end of the month, she won't see a dime for those since MFC banned the account before paying out the period.
My 2 cents on why they banned all models. I don't think it is related to that guy showing up in one girl's stream. I think the reason is more serious. Something that made MFC cut ties to avoid legal trouble. Either that or the studio tried to squeeze MFC into a position, and MFC shot back by banning the whole studio.
If I am right, then MFC has nothing against the girls. They may be allowed to return if they are not working for that studio. This may create an exodus, leaving the studio with almost no models and forcing it to shut down. Maybe that was the plan?
We are all creating theories here, but we wouldn't need to. If the studio were professional, they would talk to the girls and explain why they can't work on MFC anymore. It doesn't matter if MFC isn't replying. The studio knows or has an idea of why they got banned. MFC wouldn't ban a studio for no reason. They did something wrong, they know it. They got banned for it and give zero explanation.
At some point the studio will have to come to the realization that they messed up and there's no coming back.
I can't imagine we won't be seeing changes at some point in the next couple of months. Right now they have girls scattered across every webcam site known to man. There will not be a quick fix from losing all of that MFC income, so some sort of adjustment has to be made.
I agree 100%.
I said earlier that I believe that AprilWong getting caught is the reason. But I do admit that it could be a coincidence.
However, I still assert that if the people in charge there were professional that the AprilWong incident wouldn't even be a possibility. They broke three of the first four rules MyFreeCams has posted in rules for models multiple times. Somehow they had the good sense not to have anybody underage on camera or they would have been 4-for-4.
And MyFreeCams does state that you can be banned without warning. There's been hundreds if not thousands of models banned without warning in the past. They have never heard why and will never hear why.
Advice to any model or studio in the future. MFC has a lot of flaws, but when it comes to breaking rules, this is a "fuck around and find out" company.
https://livecamawards.com/allurestudio-lca2023/
https://livecamawards.com/allurestudio-lca2022/
As far as why the girls don't go out on their own, you have to remember that porn is illegal in Ukraine.
The studios can advertise that they provide rooms, high speed internet, training, etc. but the biggest service they provide is knowing the right people to pay off to keep the girls from getting arrested.
There are videos out there of studios being raided by police as they were broadcasting, because the right people weren't paid off.
So once again, these girls get taken advantage of, both physically and mentally, as well as getting pennies on the dollars of their earnings just so they will be protected.
An independent girl just wouldn't have the resources to pay the right people off.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/20650
https://brdo.com.ua/en/analytics/moye-tilo-moye-dilo-ukrayinski-deputaty-hochut-dekryminalizuvaty-pornografiyu/
I bet outside of the religious crowd, the people most against pornography being legalized in Ukraine are the studios.
I know plenty of successful independent models from Romania. There are still studios there, obviously, but look at the amount of independent Romanian girls on the Top 100 on MFC.
If you cut out the middle man (the studios) the girls get to keep more money and wouldn't have to deal with any unprincipled and/or lecherous studio employees.
Those articles point out lots of other advantages, too. It would be nice to see it happen.
They are broadcasting as SexyTrilogy on AdultWork with MiaMuse. The only site they are multi-camming to is Mia's Chaturbate account.
I wonder why they are streaming to one of Mia's accounts, but none of April's and Alisha's? Mia said on Instagram that the trio would be doing shows together for this month.
It seems they're getting the traffic/tips that most of the Allure models get on Chaturbate - not much. But you would think all of them would be streaming to their individual accounts, not just Mia on CB, right?
I have also been curious what Allure Studio's deal is with AdultWork. I have talked to other people who didn't know what AdultWork was before MFC banned the studio, and none of us have been impressed with it as a website. But somehow it's the one site where all Allure models work.
AdultWork is horrible. Its interface is confusing, there is no public chat and traffic is dead. The only good thing they have is the 65%-70% payout. But if you have no member booking a show, the high payout is pointless. It only works for models with sugar daddies that follow them to whatever shitty site the girls direct them.
Maybe someone can enlighten me. If they were making good money on MFC and had a good fanbase, why can't they do the same on other sites? Why do their fans not go to whatever site they are now and spend money there? I can't understand why being banned from MFC can be the studio's death if there are so many options out there. Chaturbate and Stripchat have way more traffic than MFC and people tip a lot for the type of show they are doing.
I just saw Tri Amour began streaming today. AprilWong seemed to be doing ok on her solo account on Flirt4Free, especially compared to how most of the other Allure Studio girls I have watched have been doing. But now the earnings will be split three ways?
And your question about why members haven't followed them to other sites is one of the many mysteries that have arisen since they were banned.
Now, I don't claim to know every model from the studio, but I checked the stats on this site from 20 or so. 15 of the models ranked in the Top 1000 of MFC in January. Also 10 models ranked in the Top 1000 for February, despite being banned on February 23. That February number includes LiaDazy, who didn't start until late January so she wasn't ranked then. KelSi was in the Top 100 when the ban happened, and still finished #167.
Just using those 2 as an example, it is a bit crazy to see what has happened. LiaDazy quit in March. KelSi is generating far from those number of tokens on Chaturbate.
I guess unless some of their bigger tippers explain what happened this will be another unsolved mystery.
Allure Studio started using AdultWork a few months after the war started in Ukraine. The reason, I am not sure, but I do know that the studio tries all the different cam sites. AdultWork has improved a little since they started using it, and it continues to be improved, but still a shit site. AdultWork is the only site that I have seen with a full list of all the girls registered. I find this is a nice feature.
I would guess over the past couple years no two girls from the studio have cammed more together than those two, and they always had good traffic on MyFreeCams. As a matter of fact, they were streaming together during the last day on MFC when all the bans happened.
It sure seems like that duo's success could transfer over to a new site/sites.
Now it seems as though they don't even use the same cam sites (besides AdultWork). April is on LiveJasmin and Flirt4Free, including her accounts with the girls. Mila is on Chaturbate and StripChat (occasionally Jasmin), and has begun pushing Skype on her OnlyFans.
Do you know why cam business is so popular in Ukraine and other Eastern European countries? Yes, there is a lot of money to be made, but the main reason majority of the girls go into this profession is that the average monthly salary is quite low. And women's average salary is lower then men's. This is why a lot of girls get talked into going into the cam industry. A lot never make it very long and end up working in a factory making low wages and working very hard for this wage. Factory work pays more than a lot of other jobs, but it is very demanding. These girls, use cam not only to make a decent wage, though far less then they could make if camming for themselves, they also hope to find that guy that can take them away from that life and give them something better. There are many reasons why these girls find themselves on cam. They are gullible and see an easy way to make a decent living, though it can be quite hard on them with pressure from the studio to succeed.
exploitation is a good word I think. Allure may be a safer environment for the girls to work compared to other studios and the owners of these studios may say that they are only helping the girls, but these owners are making a killing off them and pay the girls little. I just wish more had the since to save enough and cam for themselves in the safety of their own home if possible. VPN for the win.
And who knows if AprilWong even knew about the warning due to the nature of her account. Being an employee, the guy could have known and not given a fuck. He definitely has questionable morals from things I have heard. Also, the studio in general trying to sneak new models on or old models with new names, seems like it doesn't really care much for following MFC's rules anyway.
I am sure MFC didn't want to lose the income, but if rules are consistently being broken out in the open...what other choice do they have?
Then again, I know models who have gotten warnings, as well as models that have been banned with no warning. I guess it depends on how badly the rules are being broken and who is breaking them.
For instance...
This is classic MFC right here.
There are some pretty big name girls who never came back after the banning. There are plenty more, both successful and lesser known girls, that haven't been online for a month or so.
Sad what has happened to the vast majority of girls/employees who did nothing wrong and just want to make a living.
https://mycamgirl.net/stats/myfreecams/olivia
And Allure did have a dozen or more girls every month in the Top 1000. But you make a good point about banning Kickaz.
I am still amazed that Allure has kept the guy, and to some extent AprilWong, employed. He certainly should have known better. Any moron knows MFC's rules about no men, and even if this had no reason to do with the ban, they were caught breaking the rules for sure and put everyone in that studio at risk.
Seems as though they are trying many different sites, and there are varying levels of success. I think it's safe to say none of the girls are doing as well as they did on MFC, though.
But anyone who has been around cam sites for long enough knows all it takes is one tipper to turn things around for a girl. I guess they will have to hold out as long as possible and hope for that one guy to show up.
With over 40 models working, I don't think they all can wait forever.