CreditBack in LiveJasmin

I'm new on camgirl sites, in LiveJasmin today I see they added this new kind of offer, you can convert elite points for credit, but I saw you must be at least sweetheart to do so, now i'm wondering if for example i'm sweetheart and i spend 100 credits, how many will I have back?  Is it a good offer? 

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  • TLDR: I will answer your question first because the full explanation is long and confusing. As Sweetheart, if you spend 100 credits, you get 150 points that may be converted to 6 free credits. But read below the section where I talk about the minimum amount of points. You need to have at least 250 points to be able to redeem them. You can't redeem to get only 1 free credit; you must have enough points to redeem at least 10 free credits.

    This is the first time I have heard about CreditBack. So, I had to go "study" it. The email LiveJasmin sent to members went straight to spam. This email, the banner on the site, and the Club Elite page are the only places this new feature is mentioned. They spam Twitter every day with pictures of random models but can't make a single tweet about this.
    I went to read about it on the Club Elite page. It is confusing as hell. I will try to be as clear as possible.
    • When I say credits, I mean the credits you bought.
    • When I say free credits, I mean the credits you got after you redeemed your points.
    I will use Romeo as an example because that is the rank they use to answer a question in the F.A.Q. The table on the Club Elite page shows that Romeo members get 8% credit back. But then LiveJasmin says:
    For example as a Romeo, 1 credit spent means 2 CreditBack Points.
    Three things to take from this.
    1. The most obvious. The member spent 1 credit, and got 2 CreditBack. That is not 8% of 1. Later, I figured out what those 8% mean.
    2. They say CreditBack Points. You don't get free credits, but points, and one point does not equal one free credit.
    3. You must spend the credits you bought to earn points. Buying credits (and not spending them) will not earn you points.
    I went to check my current CreditBack Points. After some math, I can say that to get 1 free credit, I need 25 CreditBack Points. Please, keep in mind that I am using the information available on my account. It is not said anywhere that 25 points = 1 free credit. I got to this value by doing some math based on the total points I have and how many free credits LiveJasmin said I would get. Like I said, I had to go study this new feature. I had to do some "reverse-engineering" to figure out some things.
    I am supposing that the amount of points to get 1 free credit is  this is the same for every member, regardless of rank. The member's rank only influences how the member gets those CreditBack Points.
    So, using their example, if I were Romeo, I would need to spend 12.5 credits to be awarded 25 CreditBack Points and then be able to redeem that for 1 free credit.
    That is where those 8% come from. Eight percent is related to free credits. By spending 1 credit, you are rewarded with enough points that represent 8% of 1 free credit.
    • 1 free credit / 0.08 = 12.5 credits
    • Or 12.5 credits * 0.08 = 1 free credit
    I am trying to be as clear as possible, but LiveJasmin created a very confusing system by adding Points to the equation. They could have a more linear and clear system like the cashback that banks and credit card companies have, and show the CreditBack in free credits, not points.
    Here is a table of how many credits you need to spend to get 1 free credit based on your Club Elite rank:

    RankCredits Needed For 1 Free Credit
    Sweetheart
    16.66
    Lancelot14.28
    Romeo12.5
    Casanova11.11
    Eros10

    There are a few things that LiveJasmin mentions that people may miss:

    Dropped below Sweetheart? Can't redeem points

    If your rank drops below Sweetheart, your CreditBack Points will freeze, and you can only use them when you reach Sweetheart or above.

    You need a minimum amount of points to redeem

    You need at least 10 Credits worth of CreditBack Points to convert them.
    Yes, their wording is confusing, and you need to do some math to figure out the minimum.
    @jbravo asked how many free credits he would get if he spent 100 credits as Sweetheart. I said 6 free credits. Well, mathematically, that is correct. But technically, he gets zero. That is because he needs to have enough points to redeem for 10 free credits to be able to redeem the points.
    So, when spending 100 credits, he would sit on 150 CreditBack Points, but he wouldn't be able to redeem those points because that would give him only 6 free credits. He would need to spend 66.66 credits more to add 100 points to his balance and convert the total of 250 points to 10 free credits.
    Here is the minimum each rank needs to spend to reach 250 points:
    RankCredits Needed For 250 Points
    Sweetheart
    166.66
    Lancelot142.85
    Romeo125
    Casanova111.11
    Eros100

    You need to hold credits to redeem the points

    Another criteria for redeeming points is that the member must still hold credits in his account in order to convert CreditBack Points into free credits.

    You don't get points for the free credits you spend

    LiveJasmin does not mention this anywhere. But seems to be evident that when you spend the free credits you redeemed, those will not give you any points.

    After writing all this, I realized this could be good content for a blog post.

    jbravo
  • jbravo said:
    Is it a good offer? 
    I forgot to answer this question.
    I don't consider it an offer. It is more like a bonus, or a gift. Actually, CreditBack is replacing the Elite Gift Box, which, in my opinion, was better.
    If you are going to spend the credits anyway, it is great. You are getting free credits for spending credits that you were going to spend anyway. But if you think of spending credits only to get free credits, that is not a good deal.
    As I mentioned above, as Sweetheart, you need to spend 166.66 credits to get 10 credits. In other words, the cost of 10 credits is roughly $160, or $16 per credit. That is way more expensive than if you buy 10 credits. But since you were planning on buying credits anyway, the bonus is always good.
    I think the Elite Gift Box was better because I would often get 30%-45% bonuses on my purchases. If I would get the bonus, I would go for the highest package possible to use the bonus. This means I could get between 47 and 71 free credits on a $189 purchase (that is the value in USD, right? I use Euro, so I am not sure).
    Now, I need to spend a lot more money to get free credits. The whole thing with ranks and discounts makes it hard to have a clear idea. But for example, I could get at least 47 free credits with the Elite Gift Box by buying 158 credits. Now, I need to buy between 470 and 783 credits to get those same 47 free credits.
    If we put it in this perspective, the Gift Box was way better than the CreditBack.
    There is only one thing the CreditBack is better. You get free credits that you can use on anything you want. The Gift Box would give you bonuses, free messages, peeks, free video calls... I got a bunch of free video calls but never used them. So, I could be gifted with something I would never use.




    jbravo
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