Discussion about Lucylee, camming since 2011
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She was a camgirl from 2011 to 2014, and worked under 4 different nicknames on 2 different camsites
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She was a camgirl from 2011 to 2014, and worked under 4 different nicknames on 2 different camsites
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Please beware of Ttyna, she is a scam artist. From November of 2011 to January 2013 there was a camgirl on cams.com, named "Lucylee" (first L capitalized, second l lower case). She had black hair. I met her online in May of 2012. From that time until Lucylee disappeared she had convinced me that she loved me and wanted to marry me. The first few privates were the normal sex shows but then it became chats in private only (only talk of love and plans to be together). She later told me she had leukemia and was dying. I spent over $20K in private with her and gave her another $10K via western union. If you look at her private chat data on this site, you will see a big jump in May 2012, that is me.
I got an email from her supposed cousin in June 2013 saying she was on her death bed. Two weeks later she showed up on Cams as the camgirl "Ttyna", a blond. The bios on both girls are very similar. Even the clothes Ttyna wears are often the same as Lucylee.
I am putting this out there so that another guy is not pulled into her scam.
Attached are the following files:
1 Screen shot linking Lucylee to Liliana Florentina Cojan
2 Western Union Payments to Liliana Florentina Cojan totaling $11,600
3 Screen shot of Liana conveying her love for me
4 Emails with Liana telling me she loved me
5 More emails of love and the note from her cousin saying she was dying of Leukemia
6 Chat for money for a plane ticket to the US in May 2013, $1,200 on Western Union List
As another indicator of her love for me, last February (2013) she sent me the attached email and valentines card.
I had another discussion with her on 12 11 2013 where she admitted that she scammed me. She referred to me as an ATM.
Valentines Email and card
New Years Eve 2012 more words of commitment
In October of 2012 I asked her to stop working at Cams. She said she had to keep working there because she had a contract with the studio. I asked if she could get out of the contract. She said yes, but it would cost $10,000. I made plans to go over to Bucharest in December 2012 to buy her out of the contract. Attached is a copy of the contract.
<i style="color:#E01B4C">Edited by MyCamgirl: Privacy issues.</i>
she didnt even say thank you for the poem. lol.
I'm sorry this happened to you man but your posts are an entertaining read. how are you supposed to have a meaningful conversation with someone this young? and fall in love? halfway around the world!!??
Nice that you see humor in this girls crimes. Keep dishing out your money to her.
It is obvious that she put you up to saying this.
And don't be sorry this happened to me. Be sorry for the guys she is scamming now.
Look I did not put this out here for comments from people who do not know the facts. Only two people really know the truth her and me.
I put this out her to warn other about this girl and her lies. She uses people, me, her friends and her fans.
These scams are actually fairly common. That's why the first rule as a customer is NEVER fall in love with the models. They learn quickly how to manipulate and form bonds with their customers. It's just a job for them and as long as you keep that in your mind you should be able to see the red flags. Some are better at it than others and not all models do it, but be aware there are many who will at least try it if they see an opportunity.
Be careful out there!
I had to remove the copy of the contract for containing private info.
The 1st thing a model learns is that "all men on these pervert-sites are the same": "they just want sex and they don't care about me".
Soon, their whole chat room looks like a bunch of penises with $$$ to them.
In real life, the model has friends, a boyfriend, maybe even a husband - a NORMAL life. This is just a job to them. They go there to earn money and not have to work in other types of jobs.
The 2nd thing that happens is that the model becomes desensitized to compliments; they hear "ur so hot bb" thousands of times per day. It loses all meaning and they stop caring about the men that come to their room. Even the nice, sweet, cheery girls that PRETEND to care don't really care; think about it - you sit there with hundreds of men in your room, they all look the same to you: Some random horny man on the other side of the earth. You don't give a shit about them.
But then the 3rd thing that happens is that they learn that they can get lots and lots of money if they identify the men that have lots of money, and then pretend to love them. So, if you pay for a private, or a group show, they will add you to their friends list to keep track of you, and they will start writing down a bit of a "bio" about you to learn how much you've been spending with them, what personality you have, etc. They have bios (mental or written down) about all good spenders. They use this to groom these men and twist more and more money out of them.
Even women with good morals don't really have any moral issues with doing this to the men on these sites. Because they see these men are respectless, dirty, perverted loser-pigs on the other end of the globe, and they see themselves as living in poor countries and completely deserving the money they are getting.
The short version of this: Don't get involved with camgirls. Ever. They are tainted by their job. Their minds have been fucked by seeing tens of thousands of loser-men all acting pathetically predictable around them: "Ur so hot bb i love u". In the end it all blurs together, all men lose their value to these women, and they become expert manipulators.
Being a camgirl is the most destructive profession in the world to a woman, and being on a camsite is a pathetic thing for a guy. Don't pay for nudity. Or, if you do, do it because you're enjoying it more than going to the cinema or whatever. See it as a cheap exchange of entertainment. Trust me, there is no love involved anywhere.
The only time that a camgirl will actually care about you is if ALL of the above is met:
* it's her first 3 or so weeks on the job, when she is completely new, not yet mentally damaged/desensitized by the job
* she is still very aroused by the fact that she's performing nude for strangers
* you are a similar age to her (forget about it if you are 60 and she is 20, period)
* she finds you attractive and charming.
Even IF all of that is met, you still have another problem: She's somewhere else in the world. It won't work.
The sum of it all is: Treat these women the same way THEY view the men that come to see them: Sex-toys/ATMs. Have fun with them, but don't get attached. You wouldn't want to marry a Fleshlight.
my point is her juvenile attitude was a big red flag that she's not ready for a relationship or most likely - didn't care. and that means its not worth your time and/or money.
Put me up to this? I didn't even know this girl existed until I read your posts on the main page of this website. like other guys on here, we're just trying to tell you to watch out and help you understand that please do not fall in love with camgirls.
so take that for what its worth and thanks for warning us camfans of this girl and your mistakes.
great posts and i want to reiterate this statement - "That's why the first rule as a customer is NEVER fall in love with the models." these girls are on sex cams to work. they are not looking for love or a relationship. if you are looking for online love - go to actual dating sites like okcupid or match.com or whatever. there are women there you don't have to pay to talk to.
very well put. great post!
I concur, well written John Doe. I only wish I had seen something like this and be able to google her screen name prior to May of 2012. And I hope that more guys that are scammed write about it and others check out camgirls.
@ldwm24: You are extremely strong to come forward, and I am incredibly saddened by what happened to you. It's not fair or fun in any way, and it was NEVER your fault whatsoever. Don't EVER blame yourself. You couldn't have known about any of these risks, based on what you knew about the world at the time - and you have NOTHING to feel ashamed about. You really did your best for reasons pure to your own morals. You come from the real world where women AREN'T completely mentally desensitized, manipulative and viewing all men as walking wallets (at least not to THIS degree).
The vast majority of guys in the world (and on camsites) don't know ANYTHING about this "model's perspective" that I wrote about above, and pretty much EVERY guy in EVERY camgirl chatroom STILL believes they have a chance with the girl (if they truly wanted to), and that the girls are appreciative of the compliments (despite having literally heard them ten thousand times) and that they are sincere in their replies. Some of those guys then proceed to get more involved with a girl; a private here, a group there, followed by some deeper and deeper chat conversations as the girl weaves a story for you, tailored to ensnare your specific personality. It has happened countless of times; the best example of the kind of manipulative girl that NEVER gets caught are the rooms with the repeat big-spenders that come into girls' rooms and cheer them on, showering them with thousands of credits every day in some pathetic attempt to feel friendly and "connected" with the camgirl as if they now suddenly belonged together. Well... love can't be bought, and especially not in a camgirl chatroom where every guy just looks like a walking wallet with a penis to the girls...
The first problem with the idea of wooing a camgirl is that they don't respect you. To them, you just look like yet another loser with a penis and money. Anything you can think of saying to them, they've heard it all before, and they are incredibly bored by all of it. That's not a very good starting point for sincere flirting with a girl. It's just more bla-bla for them, and they'll just entertain those guys in the hope of converting them to regulars that come in and feed them money. If a guy never tips, they'll soon reveal their true selves as they gradually stop talking to those guys.
The more repeat customers they can acquire, the better off they will be...
This is just a job. They go into the studio room, greet the manager (a guy who they've usually fucked for favors and extra paychecks more than once), turn the computer on, undress, and enter a virtual fantasy world where they play elaborate games with the giant, nebulous, swirling mass of unknown, "pathetic men" from around the globe. They see their room fill up with hundreds of horny guys that all look the same ("pathetic losers with money who believe they have a chance with ME, hah!"). They'll entertain them in exchange for money, and tell the guys exactly what they want to hear so that they'll grow attached to these women. To them, it doesn't matter which men they happen to be entertaining for the day, as long as they're earning money. If they are extremely friendly towards you, it's an extremely good sign that you are spending too much and that they don't want to lose you as a customer. And... Then... as the day draws to a close, they shut down the studio computer, get dressed, and walk back out into the real world; the box containing all of those horny men now but a mere dark screen, as they breathe in the air of the real world on the walk back home to their boyfriend, family and friends.
Tomorrow they'll do the same thing... and this goes on around the world around the clock. It's happening to countless men on camsites right now as we speak. There are rooms filled to the brim with hopeless guys, hopelessly trying to win the affections of their chosen camgirl, right at this very moment. The only thing that distinguishes one guy from another for these camgirls, is how much money they can get out of him...
Does this post have to end on a downer? No. I guess there's hope: You know, as for the real world... these women are often completely bearable. Sure, they'll have a slightly inflated sense of self-worth ("ooh, I'm so hot that everyone wants to fuck me"), but they'll also have something else that's actually very valuable in a relationship: They won't give a damn about random guys hitting on them in a bar. Compliments have lost all value to these women and as soon as they're hearing compliments from random guys, it evokes in them the same "haha, what a loser" emotional response that they've conditioned themselves to feeling towards compliments in the chatrooms. They really don't give a shit about compliments. They're not easily taken by some random guy, and they are completely sexually liberated and happy with the guy they're with. Oh... wait, nevermind, actually, this is a downer ending as well: Because the guy they're with, is not you (whoever you are, dear reader). It's someone in their own city, in their own country...
After reading this, I hope that it awakens the reader to the reality of these girls, and the girls' perspectives on it all. So next time you (dear reader) go into a chatroom, just look at the hundreds of guys hopelessly trying to win the girl's affections at that moment. Be very happy that you're not one of them. Feel free to go into camgirl rooms for fun, but don't be a sucker. They've got enough of those in their rooms.
PS: Feel free to take my two posts and put them on forums or blogs or anywhere else, if you want to educate other men. I don't think I've ever seen the girls' perspective covered so thoroughly before, and a lot of men could be helped by this.
ldwm24 u r a dumbass!
Mr. or Ms. Only$4CamModelsNoLuvPls:
Well I must agree with you, I was a dumb ass. But I would not have been such a dumb ass if the guy she scammed before me had come to this website and told his story like me. See I was very suspicious at first, and started searching the web to see if I could find an indication that Lucylee was scamming me. I found this website early on. Unfortunately the guy she scammed before me never wrote his story on this or any other website. I spent hours searching the web for some indication that she was in fact a scammer. I found none. So if that makes me a dumb ass, so be it.
I only hope the guy she is scamming now, reads all this and stops his bleeding. See Ttyna Lucylee admitted both scams in one of our conversations after I had confronted her and she admitted to it being a scam. She referred to all three of us as her private ATM’s. This girl is scammer and a liar.
Hopefully your comment is coming from someone in a position to call me a dumb ass and not Ttyna Lucylee herself, which would not surprise me.
Mr. or Ms. Only$4CamModelsNoLuvPls:
Well I must agree with you, I was a dumb ass. But I would not have been such a dumb ass if the guy she scammed before me had come to this website and told his story like me. See I was very suspicious at first, and started searching the web to see if I could find an indication that Lucylee was scamming me. I found this website early on. Unfortunately the guy she scammed before me never wrote his story on this or any other website. I spent hours searching the web for some indication that she was in fact a scammer. I found none. So if that makes me a dumb ass, so be it.
I only hope the guy she is scamming now, reads all this and stops his bleeding. See Ttyna Lucylee admitted both scams in one of our conversations after I had confronted her and she admitted to it being a scam. She referred to all three of us as her private ATM’s. This girl is scammer and a liar.
Hopefully your comment is coming from someone in a position to call me a dumb ass and not Ttyna Lucylee herself, which would not surprise me.
well my dear, unfortunally this blog is not on top of the world, as far as I see, she is always on pvt, so i guess it is not working
Well my dear, not sure where you are getting your facts from. If you looks at Ttyna's time over the last six months she has been private 16% of the time. That is against the time she is online and does not include all the time she is in the studio. If you are talking about when she was under the Lucylee name, yes she was in private a much larger percent. I wonder why? Oh wait that was me, while she told me how much she loved me and wanted to be with me.
Just an FYI, if someone wants to be a "dumb ass" like me, and throw money away on this "person", fine, let them have at it. I just want them to know what they are dealing with.
Actually your comment got my interest so I went back and looked at it by month back to June of 2013 when she changed her name from Lucylee to Ttyna. She was running near 22% private in the first few months. But it has been declining since then with a low of 13.8% in January 2014. This went back up to 16.2% in February, but if you take Valentines day out, it would be back to January levels. Since 2/15, the percent is back down to 13.8%.
Wow, Ttyna/Lucylee's minutes have really taken a nose dive. She has only worked two days with like 12 minutes private in the last week. Kind of making me wonder if she is working another camsite under a different name. I have not found one yet, but I am sure she will pop up somewhere.
Happy Birthday ldwm24! LOL!
Same to you. April 9th.