Fake accounts on camsitesWednesday, November 30th, 2011
When years ago I visited a webcam site for the first time, my first thought was that everything was fake. I thought that every single room would be playing a recorded video and the chat would be only a computer sending pre-made text. Obviously, I was wrong. The models are real and they use live video. But unfortunately not all the models are real.
In the past months I have found some accounts that pretty much do what I thought they all used to do in the beginning. They use recorded videos.
Although I have found some accounts that have real models behind, which means that the model knows about this and either she is the one who is running the scam or she is an accomplice, a fair majority of accounts are, in fact, accounts created by someone else that has nothing to do with the model.
How do they create these accounts?
I can’t say for sure. But I know how a couple of trick they can use to fool the system and create these fake accounts.
First option: Use the ID of a real girl to have the account approved. This option can be easily done by studios, that keep copies of models IDs even after they leave the studio.
Second option: Buy or make a fake ID and use it to create the account. Isn’t that hard.
In both cases, as soon as the site approves the account, the scammer put a recorded video to play in loop instead of having that girl from the ID in front of the webcam.
Why aren’t they banned?
They are. But normally the sites don’t police the chat rooms. Even if they do, for example, on Cams.com, in the last 2 months, there were 12,053 female models online. And I’m not counting men, couples and trannies. Kinda hard to police them.
That’s why these accounts must be reported in order to get banned. Most of the sites take some time to act. Maybe they need time to be sure it is a fake account. But they normally ban these accounts. Except for Extast Cams (Chat 49) that take a long time to do something and sometimes don’t even ban the account. Indeed, complaining of anything to Extasy Cams is normally a waste of time.
Where do these scammers act?
I could say on every site. I’m pretty sure that whenever a fake account is banned, the person running the scam tries to do the same scam on other site. But this does not mean they actually have or had an account on every site.
So far I’ve found at least one fake account on Cams.com, LiveJasmin, Streamate, The Daily Peep, Extasy Cams, XLoveCam, Webcams.com, ImLive, MyFreeCams, Private Feeds, CamWorld, WebCamClub and CamSpot. Thirteen sites. It is a pretty long list.
Although on some sites it is now hard to find fake accounts because they are taking extra caution to avoid this kind of scam, like on MyFreeCams, on other sites fake accounts are found easily. Currently, Streamate seems to be the most used site by scammers. Which is bad because Streamate is a really good site, with some good and honest models, and they have been working hard to offer a good service. It sucks to see a few scammers ruining the site like that. By the way, Streamate is one of the sites that act when they get an account reported. They might take a few days to act, but they do.
On sites like CamWithHer and OnHerCam I’d say it is impossible to find fake accounts because these sites have a different process to accept models. They basically deal directly with the model and reject (with a few exceptions) any model that is not American, Canadian or Australian. This way they close the doors to any shady studio.
The real models (usually) know nothing
I can say that of all the fake accounts I found, only a few ones were created by the model. Actually, if the account was created by the model, I don’t know if I should call it “fake account”. But either way, they were using recorded videos.
Britney Foxy has been using recorded videos for a very long time on many sites. ImLive, where curiously she has won several awards for best model, seems to be her favorite site. Maybe because it is one of the few sites where models can stay in false private for the whole day. She is heavily using old recorded videos of herself while in “private”. As she is hot as hell and people never see her in free chat, some curious eyes might decide to spy her in private. Until they realize it is a recorded video, she has already made some money. Right now it is $3.80 per minute to “chat” with her. Britney has also used recorded videos on Cams.com and Webcams.com. One guy has told me that she has used recorded videos on MyFreeCams too, but I can’t confirm this because I didn’t see. He has also told me that she gets help from a guy who types the chat for her.
KELLYBUNDY (aka BARBIELICIOUS) is another model who used recorded videos for months. Also on ImLive. She has recently decided to quit using recorded videos and go live again. Curiously, now she rarely goes online on ImLive. Seems it only worth to go there if it is to use recorded videos. She has been camming, for real, on Flirt 4 Free under the name Hilary Tuff.
KristyCandy, also on ImLive and Cams.com, has been using recorded videos lately. She is another model who has good reviews on ImLive, but for some reason decided to use recorded videos. I’d say that in the past two months she was not really online. Honestly, I think I’ve never seen the real KristyCandy online. Whenever she was online, the same video was playing over and over again.
What these models have in common, besides being hot? They are all Brazilian and at some point they worked on the same studio. Although I know for sure that Britney Foxy is the person running the scam on her account, I’m not so sure about KELLYBUNDY and KristyCandy. The accounts are real, these models have showed up online there, but I don’t know if they still working on that studio. KELLYBUNDY has appeared in a different place on her last (real) shows, so I guess she has left the studio.
How to find these bastards
It is not easy. If you visit a site looking for fake accounts, you probably won’t find them. I normally find fake accounts when I am browsing online models. And then I see something that is not right. Like when I found xNicoleXO on Streamate. She had worked on Streamate before, but it has been a very long time since she logged in for the last time. Since then she has worked on LiveJasmin for months and then moved to MyFreeCams, where she has been camming exclusively for like a year. So, finding her on Streamate, during a time she uses to be offline… Fishy… And indeed, it was not her.
A model who uses to have her videos used on fake accounts all the time is Gisele. I have found fake accounts of Gisele on 3 different sites. Streamate, CamSpot and twice on Cams.com. Not to mention the dozens of accounts that use pictures of Gisele, including the LiveJasmin account created by the Romanian twins sunriseTWINS (the pictures were removed after a report). By the way, whenever you see Gisele (either on pictures or video) on a camsite that is not OnHerCam or MyFreeCams, it is 100% fake.
But the most interesting case must be the twins Nivea. No, Nivea does not have a twin sister. But something funny happening when I was trying to find the fake account that was using her videos. I knew it was on Streamate and I knew that the nickname had word “squirt” on it. So, I searched for squirt hoping to find her. Well, I ended up finding two fake accounts: realsquirt4u and sensualsquirt. And both were online.
If you know Nivea, you know that she was blonde for years and about a year ago she dyed her hair to black. When I found those two fake accounts using recorded videos of Nivea, on each account she had different hair. And not only that. Everybody knows she is from Slovakia. Well, on one account she was from Greece and on the other one she was from Hungary. And different ages too. Busted!
To complete this funny story, on the search results page I found another account. AngelSerena, a MyFreeCams model, has also appeared on the results for the word squirt. I guess the scammers know that squirting is a very good niche nowadays. AngelSerena has never worked on Streamate and, as far as I know, she can’t squirt. Neither can Nivea. But do you think the scammers care?
Streamate has already acted. All these fake accounts I mentioned are now closed. But the scammers don’t stop. While I was writing this post, I searched again for “squirt” on Stremate and I found another fake account of another model who has never worked on Streamate: DesertRosee aka Kitycat. The fake account is using the name squirtpussyy.
What you can do
First, report is to the sites where you found the fake accounts. Try to warn the model about the fake accounts. Lastly, you may want to warn the camsite where the model works. However, warning the site may not be easy because if the model is not working on only one site, you can’t really say from where the video was originally recorded. Although, you can try to find something on the video that determines the original site. I proved to MyFreeCams that an account on Extasy Cams was using a recorded video of one their models, although I didn’t know who was that model on MyFreeCams. A couple of days later, that account was banned from Extasy Cams. I like to believe that I helped.
You can also email me with the name of the fake account. If the model is on CWSW database, I can add this fake account and flag it as so. Fake accounts are listed above the official accounts with a warning people to stay away from those accounts.
Quite interesting software that I found. CamDecoy is a software that allows anyone to setup a bot with a recorded video to trick people into thinking they are chatting with a real person.
The software seems quite sophisticated and it even has commands that make the video jump to a certain part of the clip. Like “She waves” and it jumps to where the girl waves to the camera. They have a video on YouTube: Fake Webcam CamDecoy works everywhere even chatroulette and omegle
Now, take a look at the girl that CamDecoy used as example. Yes, that is right. That is MadisonQT (CWSW entry – Madison’s online activity on Streamate). Whoever is behind the scam on Streamate is using the same girl that CamDecoy uses in their promo video. Well, at least they were not dumb enough to use the same recorded video.
I don’t think that it is CamDecoy that is running the scam. Most likely some studio or webmaster that has access to adult models bought a copy of CamDecoy and shot some videos with different models. MadisonQT is not the only account using recorded videos on Streamate. All the other accounts (thanks to AmyBabyXXX for posting the accounts) seem to use videos recorded in the same studio, with same camera, same lighting… Makes it easier to catch it.
Looking at MadisonQT’s chat room, unless those are also fake members to help it look more real, many members join her room and nobody seems to have a clue that it is a recorded video.
I just don’t understand why Streamate, that is one of the best camsites and has been growing pretty in the last years, allows a scammer to run an obvious scam for such a long time. That account must be active for at least 1 year and, except for the 3 months the account was offline, it comes online every single day for 18-20 hours. No girl can stay online for that many hours every day.
Here is a tip to check on Streamate whether the girl is real or not. Most of this guy’s model (I am assuming it is guy behind the scam) are adult models, normally not too famous porn actresses. On Streamate, all adult/porn actresses have excellent connection and high definition webcams. The recorded videos have poor quality and seems to have low a framerate.
As far as I know, the are other fake accounts and they are not connected to this guy. In order to have CamDecoy working perfectly, it is necessary to have a girl to sit in front of the camera and record all the pre-made commands. The other fake accounts I know, they are only using videos they recorded from other live rooms and then put it to play in loop. It is very amateur scam. Nothing like running CamDecoy or any other complex software.
Tagging on Streamate
Streamate now allows members to tag models. Do I need to say that members have already tagged all those fake accounts with tags like “fake”, “video loop” and things like that? It is a good way to warn other members and maybe put an end on this scam once for all. The only problem is that it seems the models are allowed to remove tags. Obviously, Streamate had to do this way to avoid good models being tagged with bad tags by trolls, and I agree with this measure. But then, it also allows these fake accounts to simply remove any tag that expose the scam.
Notice that I said that it seems. I haven’t confirmed it with Streamate models. I just assume they can remove tags because I’ve been watching MadisonQT’s profile and whenever she gets tagged with something like “video loop”, after sometime, it disappears and members can’t tag her again with that same tag. All positive tags never disappear. Either this or there is a glitch on the tags. Edit: I checked with some girls and it is possible for models to remove unwanted tags. All confirmed fake accounts that have been tagged accordingly had the bad tags removed.